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‘The Khazar Empire’ is slowly creeping into the online  discussions about what is really going on in Ukraine right now.

But as usual, a lot of deliberate disinformation is being jumbled up with some real facts, as the ‘anti-Jewish’ modern secret societies, rooted in the Swiss Knights Templars and the Jesuits, continue to use the real Jews, and the authentic Torah, as their scapegoat for their own brand of satanic / gnostic evil.

If that paragraph already blew you away, the good news is that I’m going to keep this post very simple, and just stick to the subject of identifying the real origins of the Talmud-hating Karaites, and their links to the Khazars.

BH, once more of these subjects are properly birur-ed, it will get way easier to slot them into the bigger picture of ‘real Jewish history’, without getting overwhelmed or lost in too much information. 

Ready?

Let’s begin.

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EXHIBIT 1: The official history of the Khazar Empire

A few weeks’ ago, a reader sent me the link to a very interesting post on the Mayim Achronim blog, entitled:

The Surprising Story of Russia, Ukraine, and the Jews

It sets out the whole official history of how these ethnically Turkish Khazars – ‘converted’ en masse to Judaism, in the 8th century. Here’s a snippet:

At the turn of the 8th century, a new power arose in the lands between the Black and Caspian Seas.

This power was the Turkic people known as the Khazars. Around 740 CE, King Bulan of the Khazars made a fateful decision to convert to Judaism. Many in his royal family converted with him. The Khazar kingdom continued to spread far and wide, and its coins (bearing the inscription “Moses is the [True] Prophet of God”) have been uncovered by archaeologists as far as England to the west and China to the east….

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The kingdom of the Khazars was located exactly where Ukraine is today, and the Khazar capital ‘Sambat’ is known today as Kiev.

When some Slavic people settled a new city in Novgorod, the Khazars repeatedly raided it. So in 862 the Slavs called in Rurik, the king of Scandinavia, to come and protect the city. Rurik and his son Oleg (who came to be known as the ‘Rus’) were good military strategists, and by 882, they had even conquered the Khazar capital of Sambat – aka Kiev.

Here’s another snippet of the ‘official history’ of Khazaria, as set out on the Mayim Acharonim blog:

The Rurik Dynasty continued to wage war with the Khazars to the south for decades.

The famed “Schechter Letter”, one of the greatest historical finds for understanding Khazaria, describes the battles fought against the Rus by Khazarian kings and generals with names like Benjamin, Aaron II, and even Pesach! By the end of the 10th century, Khazaria had all but disappeared.

Some have posited that its many Jews fled north and west, giving rise to the Ashkenazi Jewish community (for why this is incorrect, read here).

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That link leads to another post on the Mayim Achronim website called:

[EXHIBIT 2]:

The Origins of Ashkenazi Jews

There’s a lot to unpack in that article, and I think I will have to come back to it again in a ‘Part II’. But for now, here are the takeaway points:

Historians credit the Khazars with checking the rapid Arab conquest, and preventing a Muslim takeover of Europe from the East. It is said that around 740 CE, King Bulan grew tired of his people’s backwards pagan beliefs and converted to Judaism…

Then came a huge discovery from the Cairo Geniza.

Now known as the Schechter Letter (as it was discovered by Solomon Schechter, 1847-1915), the text is a correspondence between a Khazari Jew and a Sephardi Jew, most likely Hasdai ibn Shaprut (c. 915-970 CE).

The letter includes a brief history of Khazaria, and states that Khazaria’s Jews originally came from Persia and Armenia, from which they had fled persecution.

One of their descendants, named Sabriel, eventually rose to Khazarian nobility, and finally became king. His wife, Serach, convinced him to go public with their Jewish heritage, and they did, inspiring others in the kingdom to convert to their new king’s religion.

The Schechter Letter confirms that the majority of the Jews in Khazaria were not actually Turkic converts but migrants from Persia and Armenia. Shortly after the letter was written, the Khazari Kingdom fell apart in 969 CE.

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Let’s sum up as we go along, to make this easier to follow.

  • In the 8th century, the kingdom of Khazaria was located in what is modern Ukraine.
  • It was a rich, powerful kingdom with a very wide trading network stretching from Great Britain to China – where Khazarian coins have been found.
  • It’s rumored that in 740 CE, the Khazarian King ‘Bulan’ decided to convert to Judaism, along with much of his nobility. Ethnically, these Khazarians were said to be Turkish.
  • Solomon Shecter found a letter in the Cairo Geniza dating from the 10th century that set out a different explanation for how ‘Khazaria’ became Jewish.
  • That letter stated that Jews from Persia and Armenia escaped to Khazaria, and over time, one of the community named Sabriel became the king of Khazaria.
  • King Sabriel’s wife Serach than convinced him to ‘go public’ with his Jewish faith.
  • The Kingdom of Khazar ended in 969 CE.

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Why does the history of long-gone ‘Khazar’ really matter?

There’s a long answer to that, and a short answer that we’ll stick to, for the purposes of this particular post.

As the ‘official narrative’ about what is going on in the world, I’m seeing more and more sites and comments saying the following sort of things:

  • The (fake ‘Jewish’) Rothschilds are behind everything (partially true).
  • The State of Israel is 100% owned by the Rothschilds (partially true).
  • The State of Israel is behind everything (not true – but the State of Israel is being used as a convenient scapegoat by the real culprits, i.e. Swiss Templars and Jesuits).
  • The Rothschilds descend from these converted ‘Jewish Khazars‘ (deliberate disinformation – read on.)
  • Ashkenazi Jews are all descended from converted Khazarians, and therefore not ‘ethnically Jewish‘, nor do they have a ‘DNA link’ to the land of Israel. (Sounds like it could be true, but actually is totally false – read on.)
  • The Khazarian nobility were actually worshipping Moloch, practising all sorts of evil black magic, and probably built their massive trade empire at least in part thanks to their practise of kidnapping their Slavic neighbors, and selling them as white slaves. (Amazingly – this is probably true. There is nothing new under the sun.)

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And now, there is a new calumny being spun against real Jews, off the back of this admixture of truth and lies about what was really going on in Khazar a thousand years ago.

To get a feel for what I’m talking about, take a look at this (speed it up to 1.5 or even 1.75):

DNA Under Siege: Bioweapons Developed in Ukraine Specifically Target Abrahamic Bloodline

It’s the Stew Peters show interviewing ‘Dr Aryiana Love’, who I have been suspicious of for a while, as part of the ‘controlled opposition’ designed to keep blaming Israel and Jews, for the sins of the satanic-gnostic ‘xtians’ who are really behind all this.

Let’s keep piecing all this together.

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EXHIBIT 3: SABIANS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS TO THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR IN ERETZ ISRAEL

There is evidence that the first Templars in the Middle East – a very small, elite group of nine wealthy knights – went to the Sabians in Harran before they did anything else, to try to learn more of their ‘occult’ ancient Egyptian knowledge, on the direct orders of Bernard of Clairveaux.

Snippet from Wikipedia:

The Sabians were identified by early writers with the ancient Jewish Christian group the Elcesaites, and with gnostic groups such as the Hermeticists and the Manichaens… [T]hey appear to have gravitated around the original pro-Jewish Hanputa of the Elcesaites, from which the prophet Mani seceded. These Hanip Sabians are later identified as the pro-Torah Sampsaeans.

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(Stay with me, here, I will connect all this back to the Khazarians – and to the Karaites – shortly.)

EXHIBIT 4: JEWISH-CHRISTIAN GROUPS WITH A SATANIC BENT, LOCATED IN PERSIA

Let’s unpack that Wikipedia snippet, above, to understand a bit more who we are dealing with.

THE ELCESAITES

were an early Jewish-Christian group who stayed much closer to Torah Judaism, and therefore Torah morality, but who still had heretical writings and rejected the role of Judaism’s prophets.

(They are very possibly connected to the Karaites. More on this shortly.)

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MANICHAEISM

The ‘prophet’ Mani grew up with his Jewish-Christian ‘Elcesaite’ parents in the part of Persia that is now known as Iran, before forming a breakaway group.

PAY ATTENTION, THAT THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME AREA WHERE THE ‘JEWISH KHAZAR KING’ SABRIEL, AND THE OTHER ‘JEWISH REFUGEES’ ARE MEANT TO HAVE COME FROM.

Mani’s new religion, Manichaeism, took off like a rocket, and for a few centuries before Islam, it was the biggest rival religion to Roman Catholicism in the world.

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This Jewish-xtian prophet Mani taught a creed that sounds almost exactly the same as what became satanic Sabbateanism (based on satanic xtian-gnosticism.)

Snippet from Wikipedia:

Manichaeism taught an elaborate dualistic cosmology describing the struggle between a good, spiritual world of light, and an evil, material world of darkness.

Through an ongoing process that takes place in human history, light is gradually removed from the world of matter and returned to the world of light, whence it came. Its beliefs were based on local Mesopotamian religious movements and Gnosticism.

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Manicheism taught that ‘Mani’ was the final prophet after:

  • The Persian idol worshiper Zoroaster;
  • The Far-Eastern idol worshiper (if he even existed….) Gautama Buddha, and finally,
  • The formerly Jewish heretic who went to Egypt to learn black magic, before starting his own ‘anti-Talmudic’ religion, Jesus. 

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Another snippet from Wikipedia:

Manichaeism was quickly successful and spread far through the Aramaic-speaking regions.

It thrived between the third and seventh centuries, and at its height was one of the most widespread religions in the world. Manichaean churches and scriptures existed as far east as China and as far west as the Roman Empire.

It was briefly the main rival to Christianity before the spread of Islam in the competition to replace classical paganism.

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It seems at least possible that the real ‘religion’ of the rulers of Khazar, who had Jewish roots, was actually the same devil-worshipping religion of the Sabians, that had a ‘Jewish-gnostic-xtian’ fig life covering it’s darker side.

Remember, the coins of the Khazar empire were found in the same places where these ‘Manichean churches and scriptures’ were located – places like China and the British Isles.

And the Khazarian rulers came from Persia – exactly the same place where the Jewish-xtian Elcesaites were located, and then later the followers of the Jewish-xtian Prophet Mani – who basically taught a doctrine of ‘redemption through sin’, i.e. removing all the spiritual light from the world to hasten ‘the end’.

That doctrine then showed up again a few centuries later, as the key plank of Shabtai Tzvi, and then the Frankists.

And as we know, the Rothschilds were Frankists, whatever else they were.

And as we know, the Knights Templars were also very interested in the occult knowledge of the Sabians.

There’s more.

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EXHIBIT 5: HISTORY OF THE KARAITE JEWS

The last two weeks, I’ve been reading a book that was published in 1870 by a xtian scholar named William Harris Rule, called ‘History of the Karaite Jews’.

It’s pretty dry… but I learned some very interesting things. I will sum up the main points as bullets, to make this post easier to read, but I may well expand on some of this information in future posts.

That book states that:

  • The Karaite Jews came into being in the time of Shimon Ben Shetach.
  • They were ‘students of Shammai’, under someone called ‘Ben Tabbai’ – who was meant to an opponent of Shimon Ben Shetach.
  • These Karaites totally rejected the Talmud (I’ll quote from their own writings below.)
  • Torah Jews frequently claimed that the Karaites descended from the Sadducees (Tzadukim) heretics.
  • They had close connections with the kingdom of the Khazars.
  • William Harris Rule frequently comments on the fact that there is a huge amount of overlap between the beliefs of the Karaites, and xtian beliefs.

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Here’s a snippet from some of the early Karaite writings against the Talmud, promulgated during the reign of the Roman Emperor Justinian, in 529 CE (pg 78, History of the Jews):

“[W]e utterly prohibit, as it neither agrees with the Holy Scripture, nor was it handed down by the Prophets from above, but is the invention of men who speak from the earth only, and have not one thing that is divine in them. Therefore, let them read only the words that are sacred, opening the sacred books themselves, and not concealing what is said in them, nor bringing in vain words that were written elsewhere” – written in Babylonian manuscripts – “contrived for the purpose of setting aside the plainer words which they contain.”

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Just like the xtians, the Karaites / Sadducees / Elcesaites-Manichean Jewish-Gnostic xtians / devil-worshipping Sabians all hate the Gemara with a vengeance.

Pay attention to this. It comes up a lot.

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On page 79, Rule says this:

“[T]he name of Karaite does not yet occur in history, but first comes to view about the middle of the eighth century, in connection with the Chozars, a rude but powerful nation north of the Caucasus, among whom the Karaite Jews must have been for a long time well known.”

This is where I really started to sit up.

Those ‘Chozars’ and the Khazars we’ve been discussing here, and Rule is telling us that the Jews that were located in that region were actually ‘Karaite Jews’.

Compare and contrast this with what we learned from the ‘Shechter Letter’ from the Cairo Geniza, that introduced us to the Jews from Persia and Armenia who escaped to Khazaria, at exactly this time, where one of their number, Sabriel, became the king of Khazaria.

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Rule then quotes a Russian historian called Karamsin, who describes how these ‘Chozars’ “have possessions on the Sea of Azof…”

This is the same ‘Azof’ that the neo-Nazi, Jewish-oligarch funded ‘Azov Battalion’ is named for.

Rule continues to quote Karamsin (pg 80) saying:

“Their government was mild and under it persons of every religion enjoyed perfect freedom. Their chief settlement lay north-west of the Caspian Sea, which was called the Sea of Chozar.”

This is the Donbass region at the heart of the current war between Ukraine and Russia. 

According to Rule, the Khazars were finally kicked out of the region in 945 CE, by King Sviatoslaf, “and their name, otherwise almost forgotten, was preserved in the archives of the Muscovite.”

The war in Ukraine has some very deep, very hidden, historical roots.

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In the meantime, CO-INC-IDEN-TALLY, the main stronghold of the Karaites at this time is in the Crimea – i.e the exact same area.

It’s the city of ‘Djufut Kale’ in Crimea, where the Karaite gravestones go back at least as early as the 6th century, and possibly even back to 330 CE – the exact same time that the Jewish-gnostic-xtian-Persian Elecaites and Manicheans were starting to spread out in the region.

You can see the Wikipedia page for that city HERE – and let me quote more of the deliberate historical disinformation you’ll find under the title ‘Legends’ there:

Another legend, fostered by the Karaites to show the antiquity of their sect, says that Karaites were brought there from Persia at the time of the first Exile.

The early settlers of the city exercised great influence upon their neighbors, the Khazars.

The ḥakam Abraham Firkovich, who was very skilful in falsifying epitaphs and manuscripts, pretended to have unearthed at the cemetery of Chufut-Kale tombstones dating from the year 6 of the common era, and to have discovered the tomb of Sangari, which is still shown by the Karaites.

According to Harkavy, however, no epitaph earlier than 1203 can be seen at the cemetery of Chufut-Kale, called “Vale of Jehoshaphat”; and the tombs do not belong to Karaites, but to the old Rabbinite settlers called Krymchaks.

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(The Krymchaks are also interesting… but let’s stay focussed. I’ll probably come back to the Krymchaks another time.)

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I’ll bring two more bits of information, then I’ll sum it up and call it a day.

EXHIBIT 6: ‘KARAITES’ IN THE GEMARA

While I was in the middle of reading Rule’s book, above, one of my readers sent me an email about finding the reference ‘Bchor Satan’ in the Gemara.

If you remember, ‘Bchor Satan‘ was the name of R Marvin Antelmann’s book exposing how the (not-so) secret Sabbatean was excommunicated for advocating adultery, incest, pedophilia, and fathering a child with his own daughter, amongst other things.

(Honestly, a lot of other things…. You can read more about that HERE, HERE and HERE.)

My correspondent had just come across that phrase in the Gemara, in Tractate Yevamot 16a, and told me to go look it up.

I did.

And that’s where I found a reference to a group of people called the ‘Karduyites’ or alternatively, ‘KARTUYITES’.

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Here’s the snippet, but please go read the whole thing yourself, for more context:

The third ruling of Chaggai the prophet is discussed: And we may accept converts from the Karduyites and the Tarmodites.

The Gemara questions this ruling:

Is this indeed so? But Rami Bar Yehezkel has taught the following Baraisa: We may not accept converts from the Karduyites.

The Gemara answers:

Rav Ashi said: The word KARTUYITES (and not Karduyites) is what was stated by Rami bar Yechezkel.

Support for this is stated:

This accords with that which people say, ‘Kartuyites are genealogically unfit’.

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Artscroll Notes 15 and 19 explain what’s going on here.

Note 15 states:

The Karduyites and Tarmodites were heathen peoples, but they were alleged to include descendants from Jewish women who had married gentile men.

The child of a union between a Jewish woman and a gentile man is Jewish; there is a question, however, whether he is a regular Jew or a mamzer. According to the view that he is amamzer, the Karduyites and Tarmodites should be suspected of being mamzerim.

If so, they could not be accepted as converts [for although mamzerim are Jewish, it is unwise to accept them as ‘converts’, lest they marry regular Jews and cause a proliferation of mamzerim in the main community (see Rashi’s commentary to 17a on the words beginning ‘yoma teva’.]

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Note 19 states:

Rami bar Yechezkel was referring only to the KARTUYITES, who were ineligible as converts [possibly because they were suspected of being mamzerim, (see Note 15.)

Note 20 states:

The word passulim (‘unfit’) for marriage denotes mamzerim and similarly disqualified persons, as opposed to gentiles, who upon conversion are able to marry regular Jews.

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The similarity between the word KARTUYITES and KARAITES is very striking.

And I think it’s another hint to who these ‘Karaites’ really were, and just why the hated the  ‘Rabbinates’ and their ‘Talmud’ so much – that said explicitly that regular Jews shouldn’t marry them, as they were ‘genealogically unfit’ for marriage, because they were suspected of being mamzers.

It’s probably a good place to add here that Yoshki himself would thus be considered to be a mamzer, given that the Talmud states his father was a gentile Roman soldier, and his mother Miriam (aka ‘the Virgin Mary’) was a prostitute….

And of course, this is one of the passages that the Jesuits and xtians – together with Jonathan Eybshutz, in Prague – historically tried to censure out of the Talmud.

So many ends start to tie themselves up, when the real information comes into view.

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EXHIBIT 7: THE KARAITE LINKS TO JACOB FRANK, AND THE SHOR FAMILY

In all the research I was doing about Jacob Frank, and the weird links between so many of our ‘leaders’ and the Karaite rabbis and communities, that had strongholds throughout Podolia (know modern Ukraine), there were a few towns that kept coming up as strong ‘Karaite Jewish’ communities.

They include:

  • Brody;
  • Lutzk;
  • Lublin;
  • Troki – very close to Vilna

This is a snippet from a post from the old site, where I tripped over the real family tree of false messiah of Jacob Frank, when I was trying to track down more info about Rabbi Shalom Shachne Shor, the Karaite father-in-law of the REMA and chief rabbi of Lublin.

I tripped over THIS genealogy site, from Holland, while I was trying to track down more info about Shalom Shachne Shor.

It’s the family tree for one ‘Jacob Lob Benjamin Frankel’ (d 1791).

I am 99.9% sure he is the real Jacob Frank. Finally.

His father is Judah Leib Frankel (tick…), his mother is an ‘unnamed’ daughter of R’ Yaakov Shor, who descends from the Shor family via Shalom Shachne Shor (and is probably a ‘secret’ Karaite. He’s the ABD of Lutzk, which you’ll recall from above is a known Karaite stronghold, as is Brody). These links have been totally scrubbed on geni, and the mythical ‘BABAD’ family have been introduced instead:

His grandfather’s brother was the infamous Elisha Shor (Wolowsky), the ‘leader’ of the secret Sabbatians in the Jewish community.

On his maternal grandmother’s side, Jacob Frank(el) descends from the Isserles clan, and is 6 generations away from the REMA.

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There is a lot more to unpick here, to be sure.

But this post is plenty long enough already.

OK, let’s sum up the main points:

  • In the 8th century, the kingdom of Khazaria was located in what is modern Ukraine.
  • It was a rich, powerful kingdom with a very wide trading network stretching from Great Britain to China – where Khazarian coins have been found.
  • It’s rumored that in 740 CE, the Khazarian King ‘Bulan’ decided to convert to Judaism, along with much of his nobility. Ethnically, these Khazarians were said to be Turkish.
  • Solomon (Shneor Zalman) Shecter found a letter in the Cairo Geniza dating from the 10th century that set out a different explanation for how ‘Khazaria’ became Jewish.
  • That letter stated that Jews from Persia and Armenia escaped to Khazaria, and over time, one of the community named Sabriel became the king of Khazaria.
  • King Sabriel’s wife Serach than convinced him to ‘go public’ with his Jewish faith.
  • The Kingdom of Khazar ended in 969 CE.
  • The Sabians (xtian-gnostic-satanists) were directly connected to the Knights Templar, and gave them ‘occult knowledge’.
  • The Sabians may have been connected to Manicheasm, another Jewish-gnostic-satanist sect from Persia that spread throughout the near and Far East, and also throughout the Roman Empire before the 8th century.
  • It’s at least possible that the ‘mysterious Jews’ who settled in Khazar and became its rulers were practising some form of Jewish-gnostic-satanist ‘Manicheasm’.
  • The ‘Karaites’ also had a strong presence in Crimea and Khazar at this point, and strong connections to the Khazar kingdom.
  • The Karaites also hated the Talmud and ‘rabbinic Jews‘ with a vengeance, and had a belief system that overlapped greatly with christianity.
  • In Yevamot 16a, we find a discussion of the ‘KARTUYITES’ – suspected mamzers who the Sages suggest are unfit to marry into the wider Jewish community. There is strong similarity between the words ‘KARTUYITES’ and ‘KARAITES’.
  • Yoshki sounds very much like a proto-Karaite, with his pronouncements against the ‘corrupt rabbis’ and insistence on the Old Testament to be read without any connection to the oral law.
  • Yoshki himself fits the description of a  ‘Kartuyite’ – i.e. a person with a non-Jewish father who is suspected of being a mamzer.
  • There were many Karaite strongholds in Podolia (Ukraine) and Crimea, including Lublin and Djufut Kale in Crimea.
  • Jacob Frank, the false messiah, descends from the Shor family of Karaites – and both he and the Sabbeteans before him taught a doctrine very similar to that of the Jewish-gnostic-satanic prophet Mani.

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UPDATE:

According to the author of the Seder HaDorot, Rabbi Yechiel Halperin, the Kuzari was apparently written by R’ Yitzhak Almangari.

He writes:

“I saw in the Sefer HaEmunos that the episode concerning the Khazar king and the Chacham is authentic, and that the Chacham’s name was R’ Yitzhak Almangari.

The aforementioned king was converted by R’ Almangeri some 400 years ago before Yehuda HaLevi. The previously mentioned Rabbi recorded the entire episode in the Khazar language; R’ Yehudah HaLevi transcribed it into Arabic and then R’ Shmuel ibn Tibbon translated it into Hebrew.”

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Interestingly, R’ Yitzhak Almangari was buried in the Karaite cemetery in Crimea (see page 83 of The History of the Jews).

Which suggests that the Kuzari was a Karaite!

If it even happened at all, and was not just a ‘cover story’ for this real sect of Manichean Jewish-gnostics from Persia, who had connections with the gnostic-satanist Sabians, and apparently became the rulers of Khazar in the 9th century.

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Ad kan!

Again, I’m just putting the info out there, please feel free to help fill in more gaps, if you have additional information and insight.

But what’s clear is that the real story of the roots of the war in the Ukraine – and it’s implications for real Jews and Eretz Yisrael – is still to be told.

So stay tuned.

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14 replies
  1. JR
    JR says:

    ” and the mythical ‘BABAD’ family ”

    Nothing mythical about באב”ד. That’s the authour of the classic מנחת חינוך.

    Be cautious when dealing with “facts” about the Khazars. So much is lost to history, that much of that which is writter about the subject is speculation or outright fabrication. The Schechter document is also suspect, not for its authenticity but whether its contents actually reflect reality or legend. But you’ve already seen how the Khazar legend has been manipulated and exploited by anti-Semites. These people build up extensive false narratives from next to nothing. More grand that castles in the sky, and less reliable than a house of cards. (Compare the false Khazar theories to the fabricated traditions of modern Templar groups!)

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    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      Can you be more specific about which ‘fabricated traditions of modern Templar groups’ you are referring to?

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      • JR
        JR says:

        The standard conventional history of the Templars is that they were suppressed by the Philip the Fair in 1313. And that was that. The unconvential history is they went underground and somehow survived into the modern era.

        In any case, centuries later, you’ve got many disparate groups making claims to a Templar tradition. I suspect that these groups themselves believe(d) that their claims are merely symbolic.

        Here are some examples:
        * Freemasonic Templar degrees.
        * Order of the Solar Templar: Cult that reached the headlines after their mass suicide/murder.
        * Order of the New Templars: founded by racist occultist Lanz von Liebenfels who had some influence on Hitler. (See The War Against The Jews)
        * German Templers. Pietist group who formed colonies in Palestine

        The term “Templar” is in the public domain. Anyone could form their own organization and call it Templars & even make unsubstantiated claims that they have received a Templar tradition.

        The same thing goes for the Ku Klux Klan. Anybody can organize a group and call themselves KKK. No single KKK group can claim continuity from the original that formed after the Civil War. There are also many self-styled Freemasonic organizations who formed without authorization from established masonic organizations. Similarly, any modern Rosicrucian group have no real connection to the Rosicrucians from the 17th century- AND the original Rosicrucians probably didn’t exist- they existed only as a legend/hoax.

        And if I going to expose these phonies, why not mention all those non-Jewish kings/monarchs who claim descendancy for דוד המלך?

        It’s all fakery!

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        • Rivka Levy
          Rivka Levy says:

          I strongly disagree with you, for a lot of reasons. If Covid taught us anything, it’s that ‘conventional anything’ is a crock, and that goes double and triple for ‘conventional history’.

          They can’t even tell the truth about stuff that is happening right now.

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          • JR
            JR says:

            Which part do you disagree?
            Do you believe that these different groups actually posess an authentic Templar tradition? I certainly don’t believe the proto-Nazi Templars had any tradition. Their whole concept of an Aryan race is a fabrication, dating no earlier than the mid-19th century.

            The Karaites also make false claims. Much concerning the movement’s founding is lost to history. But there’s no evidence that Anan Ben David was continuing a recieved tradition. In other words, he made it all up, even if he did borrow/steal from earlier heretical movements.

          • Rivka Levy
            Rivka Levy says:

            Belief – even your ‘belief’ is not the same as fact.

            The whole discussion about what ‘Aryan’ is actually referring to also has much deeper historical roots, again, all covered up by the xtians who don’t want the world to know just how much suffering and true evil their religion is actually responsible for.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

            “Controversy over Arianism arose in the late 3rd century and persisted throughout most of the 4th century.

            It involved most church members—from simple believers, priests, and monks to bishops, emperors, and members of Rome’s imperial family. Two Roman emperors, Constantius II and Valens, became Arians or Semi-Arians, as did prominent Gothic, Vandal, and Lombard warlords both before and after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

            Such a deep controversy within the early Church during this period of its development could not have materialized without significant historical influences providing a basis for the Arian doctrines.”

  2. JR
    JR says:

    “The whole discussion about what ‘Aryan’ is actually referring to also has much deeper historical roots,”
    “Arianism” has nothing to do with “Aryan”. The words are not even etymologically related.
    Show us a single use of the term Aryan as referring to white/Germanic races before the 19th century. You won’t find it, because that modern use of the term was quite simply a fabrication that was later taken up by the Nazis.
    I only brought up the subject as an illustration how many groups concoct their own history out of thin air. Hence, the Order of the New Templars fabricating a fake connection to the original Templars and using the term Aryan unconnected to the original use of that term. All lies & fantasy.

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    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      Ok, whatever.

      You are entitled to your opinion that ‘Arianism’ has nothing to do with ‘Aryan’.

      For my part, I no longer believe in ‘coincidences’, and it’s clear there is far more going on than ‘conventional history’ is telling us.

      BTW – do you believe in the Covid 19 vaccination?

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      • JR
        JR says:

        “You are entitled to your opinion that ‘Arianism’ has nothing to do with ‘Aryan’.”
        It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact. You have not shown any connection between the two beyond the words themselves.

        ” I no longer believe in ‘coincidences’”
        Does that mean that any two things that have have similar names are necessarily connected? Is that your default approach?

        The same goes for your claim that R’ Eyebeschutz’s antagonist, the פני יהושע was connected to the Falk family because he had a matching nickname. That too is a coincidence.
        Given the multitude of languages, word coincidences and ironies abound. That’s why the word for “something” in Yiddish sounds a lot like a word for “nothing” in Hebrew. It’s just an ironic coincidence.

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      • Rivka Levy
        Rivka Levy says:

        That is a very pertinent question, thanks for raising it.

        I’m still sifting through a lot of info – and I welcome input from others – but there are definitely some linkages.

        This comes from here:

        https://iranicaonline.org/articles/aryans

        “The first appearance of Aryans in history is about the middle of the 2nd millennium B.C. in the Hurrian empire of Mittani (in northern Mesopotamia), where Indo-Aryans at that time at least formed the aristocratic dynasty. It seems that individual groups of Indo-Aryans instead of going eastward to India came via Iran to the Fertile Crescent together with the Hurrians, to whom they soon became assimilated as to language and culture.”

        Again, notice that these ‘Aryans’ are the aristocratic dynasty. And the Hurrians lived in parts of what is now Iraq, Syria and Turkey – and worshipped the ‘Baal’.

        There’s also a suggestion that these Hurrian / Aryans migrated North, up to the Black Sea – i.e. the area of modern Ukraine.

        That theory comes from: “P. Kretschmer and recently by O. N. Trubachov that Indo-Aryan tribes once settled on the Black Sea shore.”

        But according to the iranica website: “[S]ince their arguments are based upon the unreliable and speculative etymologies of a variety of names”, this theory shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

        Strange, how some people hold that ‘etymology’ is meant to be so very important in all this – when it suits them – while others hold it’s not important at all – when it suits them.

        Lastly, there is a link between these Aryans and India, and particular the Vedic religion.

        “Aryan culture and religion. The linguistic similarities between the Old Iranian texts, particularly the Zarathushtrian Gāθās (the oldest part of the Avesta), and the Old Indian Veda (especially its oldest part, the Rigveda or Ṛgvedasaṃhitā, are quite striking and much closer than those between any other two Old Indo-European languages.”

        The vedic religions include Hinduism, and if you go here:

        https://www.hinduscriptures.com/vedic-culture/symbols/swastika/12125/

        You’ll find a whole discussion of how the ancient Aryans first adopted the swastika symbol, many millenia ago:

        “The swastika was first adopted by the Aryans as a symbol for the good of humanity.”

        The Aryans being spoken of here are the ancient Hurrian, Baal-worshipping, aristocratic elite Aryans from the Iraq / Turkey / Syria area.

        There’s a lot of fake history to work through here, to try and figure out all some of the connections.

        But if I’ve learned one thing in recent months, it’s that there is nothing new under the sun. Whatever we see happening in our days, was also happening in the past.

        And the same names – like ‘Aryans’ – seem to keep coming up in relation to demon-worshipping elitist evil that likes swastikas, again and again and again.

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        • Rivka Levy
          Rivka Levy says:

          I just did a bit more looking around, and guess where the first ever example of a swastika was found?

          If you said ‘Ukraine’, you’d be right:

          https://indianyug.com/swastika-symbol/

          “The earliest known use of the Swastika symbol—an equilateral cross with arms bent to the right at 90° angles—was discovered in Ukraine in 1908 carved on a 15,000-year-old ivory figurine of a bird made from a mammoth tusk.”

          That same article goes on to say this:

          “The icon was chosen by the Nazi party to represent its goal of racial purification in Europe. Hitler and his Nazi Party believed that a line of pure Germanic ancestry originating in the Aryan race—a grouping used to describe Indo-European, Germanic, and Nordic peoples—was superior and that other, less-superior races should be ousted from Europe.”

          This website, below, also has some interesting information – although everything has to be birur’ed, because the guy writing it is a self-confessed ‘white supremacist’ who believes in scientific myths about the world being billions of years old:

          http://www.renegadetribune.com/aryan-genesis-part-1-ancient-aryans/

          “The Aryan race, or the concept of “Aryan” as a racial description of phenotype is not accurate. Aryan is both a linguistic tradition as well as a common culture, or rather a number of cultures which share the same common ancestry. Aryan also is a series of religious or folk beliefs that also have a common denominator. And the race which originally created the language, culture and religious roots of the descendants of the Aryans were of the Nordic race, based on both genetic, archaeological and living examples of peoples of Europe and the northern, more isolated regions of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Northern India, Kurdistan in Iraq, Asia Minor and many other similar Near Eastern and Asiatic regions.
          Deceased examples of an Indo-European racial type that share religious, cultural and linguistic traditions in common with Old Persian, Hindu and especially Celtic and Germanic peoples from Europe were the Tocharians, whose best example are the Caucasian mummies of China, which wore Celtic tartan dress, ornamented their belongings with swastikas, bore tattoos with symbols consistent with all Indo-Europeans peoples, held religious items indicative of both India and Europe, and physically were tall, blonde and blue-eyed, or with red hair and a distinct Nordic racial type.”

          He also says this:

          “According to Hindu beliefs, the father of the Aryans was Manu, or in English “Man”. Thus in English the word “Man” more properly signifies “Aryan”.”

          “Manu” sounds so similar to “Mani”… but there’s a lot of birur to do here.

          UPDATE:

          And finally, he says this, clearly making a link between light-skin and ‘superior genetics’ in ‘Aryan warriors’, even back in ancient times:

          “We know, from both the Hindu Vedas and ancient Zoroastrian texts from Persia, that a northern race of powerful warriors invaded the areas of present Iran, northern India, Pakistan and Afghanistan around 3500 B.C. and established an empire known as Aryas.

          “Over 300 words in the Indo-European languages are derived from these people, including the name Iran. Archeologists of the 19th century referred to the Aryans as Indo-European or Indo-Germanic tribes. However, in Hinduism and in Iran the term Aryan means “noble,” and this race is often called the “shining ones” who were pitted against the forces of darkness, often called the ”dark ones.”

          “Hindu legend says that civilization dates back to an incredibly distant time, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years, and that the ancestors of the Aryans were blond, oftentimes bearded, light-skinned people led by their Lord Indra. Early twentieth century author Jorg Lanz von Leibenfeld:

          “[T]he Aryan race had committed bestiality with lower species, which derived from an earlier and quite distinct branch of animal evolution . . . According to his theology the Fall simply denoted the racial compromise of the Aryan due to the wicked interbreeding with lower animal species. The consequence of these persistent sins was the creation of several mixed races, which threatened the proper sacred authority throughout the world, especially in Germany where the race was more numerous.”

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          Hope you are following this discussion, anonymous Jerusalem Resident.

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