The more I look into the history of ‘the Khazars’ the more weird stuff I’m discovering.

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Just to recap, as part of the ‘conspiracy’ to blame the real Jews for everything that is currently going wrong in the world, and all the New World Order / Great Reset / satanic evil stuff, I’m hearing more and more stuff about ‘the Ashkenazi Jews all descend from the Khazars, and so don’t have ‘Abrahamic DNA”.

And in turn, that links up with another standard conspiracy that ‘the Rothschilds are Khazarian mafia, and they own everything and are responsible for everything.’

As to whether the Rothschilds are really descendants of the ‘Khazars’, it’s still far too early to say.

Personally, I’m still in the middle of trying to figure out who these ‘Khazars’ actually were, historically – and there appears to be a lot of secrets wrapped up with that.

(You can read Part 1 of this discussion HERE.)

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What I can already tell you for sure, tho, is that the Rothschilds are really just ‘obviously Jewish’ bag men for the real evil powers behind the throne, who are actually connected to ‘satanic gnostic xtianity’ – if not rooted in pagan religions that are far older, like the worship of Moloch.

And I can also tell you that the Rothschilds are related by blood to some of our ‘biggest rabbis’ and ‘Jewish leaders’ in both the secular and supposedly frum world.

So if the Rothschilds really are fake-Jewish Khazars…. they have a lot of company.

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After I wrote the last post, on the hidden links between the Khazar empire and the Karaites, a couple of interesting things happened.

  1. My plumber came to fix a leaking tap, and out of nowhere started telling me about this ‘Karaite friend’ of his, who has apparently been trying to proselytise him, and bring him to ‘Karaite meetings in the Old City’.

I literally couldn’t believe my ears, because Karaite propaganda is still pretending that there are 4 1/2 of these people left, and they aren’t interested in spreading their ‘faith’ to anyone else.

Yeah right!!

I went looking, and here is a video from about 10 years ago of the ‘Karaite Synagogue’ in the Old City, said to be the oldest synagogue in Jerusalem:

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And then I found a website called ‘Karaite-Korner.org‘, which has a lot more explanation of who the Karaites say they are, what they apparently stand for – and why that’s ‘against’ authentic orthodox Judaism, which holds by the primacy of the Oral Law and the Talmud.

Here’s their intro snippet:

Karaism is the original form of Judaism as prescribed by God in the Torah.

Karaite Judaism rejects later additions to the Tanach (Jewish Bible) such as the Rabbinic Oral Law and places the ultimate responsibility of interpreting the Bible on each individual. Karaism does not reject Biblical interpretation but rather holds every interpretation up to the same objective scrutiny regardless of its source.

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HERE is where you can read the Karaite ‘Declaration of Faith’.

And HERE is where you can read a whole list of FAQs about the Karaites – as written by a modern Karaite ‘Chacham’, Nechemia Gordon.

Here’s a few that really caught my eye:

Who is a Jew? Matrilineal or Patrilineal?

Most Karaites believe in patrilineal descent, meaning that if your father is Jewish than you are Jewish.

This is based primarily on the fact that all descent in the Bible goes according to the male line. Some Karaites believe that both parents must be Jewish. However, anyone who 1) is circumcised [males only], 2) accepts the God of Israel [YHWH] as their own God, and 3) accepts the People of Israel as their own people is a full-fledged Jew [Israelite], see Exodus 12,43-49 and Ruth 1,16.

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Do Karaites eat milk and meat together?

Yes. While there is a Biblical prohibition not to boil a young goat or sheep in its mother’s milk, there is no such prohibition against eating milk and meat together.

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Are Karaites and Sadducees the same thing?

We know very little about the beliefs of the Sadducees. We do know however that like the Karaites they believed only in the authority of the Tanach and rejected the Oral Law.

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What is the role of women in Karaism?

Women have equal status to men in Karaism.

When the Torah commanded that the entire nation come to hear the Torah read in a public reading on Sukkot every seventh year, it explicitly mentioned that both men and women were required to come and learn the Torah. Women have an equal obligation to keep the commandments and study the Tanach. There are some laws that apply specifically to men (such as circumcision) just as there are some laws that apply specifically to women (such as laws regarding menstruation). 

Women have equal standing and participation in prayer services and as spiritual leaders. In the 10th century, the leader of the prominent and powerful Karaite community of Spain was a woman whom the Karaites referred to as “The Teacher” [al-Mualema].

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I highly recommend you go read the rest of the FAQs, HERE.

Because what struck me instantly was that these Karaites still hate ‘the rabbis’ and ‘their Talmud’ with a passion; and that Karaite beliefs overlap a lot with Sadduccees, xtians – and perhaps more relevant for our times, ‘Reform Judaism’.

Reform is also really big on patrilineal descent, and on women having an ‘equal role’ in prayer services.

At this stage, I’m increasingly of the view that is not an accident.

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If you go HERE, you’ll find a page entitled ‘History of Karaism’.

Here’s a few snippets that caught my eye, but please do go and read it yourself, it’s not so long:

Like the Karaites who were to follow them, the Sadducees and the Boethusians continued the tradition originated by Moses (Dt 4,2) of keeping the Torah’s commandments with no addition. 

Ed. note: This appears to confirm some sort of link between the original, heretical Sadducees and Boethusians, and their ‘spiritual descendants’, the Karaites.

[I] n the 8th century a last glimmer of hope appeared in the form of a shrewd leader named Anan ben David.

Anan organized various non-Talmudic groups and lobbied the Caliphate to establish a second Exilarchate for those who refused to live according to the Talmud’s man-made laws. The Muslims granted Anan and his followers the religious freedom to practice Judaism in the way of their ancestors.

Anan himself was not a Karaite… Anan’s followers became known as Ananites and this group continued to exist down until the 10th century.

On the other hand, those Jews who continued to practice the Tanach-based religion of their ancestors became known as Bnei Mikra (“Followers of Scripture”) which was also abbreviated as Karaim (“Scripturalists”), in English “Karaites”.

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Pay attention to the timing of all this.

The 8th century is exactly when the Khazar king, Sabriel-Bulan, is meant to have decided to become a Jew.

And we know that the Khazar empire was historically full of Jewish Karaites, and also other Jewish ‘refugees’ who had moved there from Persia and Armenia, to ‘escape persecution’.

What we can learn out from this, is that there is a strong possibility that the ‘Jews’ who were trying to get out of Persia and Armenia by moving to Khazar were those who were ‘anti’ the Rabbis, and ‘anti’ the Rabbinic traditions – i.e. a bunch of heretics, at the very least.

And that’s even without mixing in the Jewish-xtian-gnostic groups, the followers of ‘Mani’, and a bunch of others who were literally still worshipping demons….

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Also pay attention to this whole Karaite idea of Jewish descent being passed on via the man – in total contradiction of halacha.

Personally, this is starting to answer a lot of the questions I’ve been having, over the last two years, about how so many of our supposedly ‘big rabbis’ and their families could continue to claim to be Jews, when the men were obviously marrying out.

This has enormous implications for the whole idea of ‘who is really a Jew’, today.

Also remember that passage from Yevamot 16a (quoted in the last post) about the KARTUYITES / KARAITES being ‘genealogically unfit’ for regular Jews to marry?

Rami bar Yechezkel was referring only to the KARTUYITES, who were ineligible as converts [possibly because they were suspected of being mamzerim…

Again, we are starting to see the contours of something much deeper starting to come into focus.

If Sadducee-Karaites hold that Jewish descent is via the father not the mother… well. You can already see what a mess can develop in a very short amount of time.

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One last thing, on that topic.

If you go HERE, you’ll find a Jpost article about the Karaites, and how 25,000 currently live in Israel, and how the State of Israel apparently considers them all to be Jewish.

How is that possible, when they practise ‘patrilineal descent’?

Here’s a snippet:

There’s a lot of confusion because of the Karaites in Eastern Europe.

They became ‘cultural Karaites’ and rejected Judaism – and say that they’re not Jews,” explains [Chacham Nechemia] Gordon. The great majority of Karaites come from Egypt, however, and Gordon asserts that “within Judaism, we accept the Karaite approach as opposed to the Orthodox or Conservative or Reform approach. But I must emphasize that we’re first and foremost Jews,” he repeats.

Rabbi David Chayim Chelouche, the chief rabbi of Netanya, agrees. “A Karaite is a Jew,” says Chelouche, who has written a great deal about the Karaites. “We accept them as Jews and every one of them who wishes to come back [to mainstream Judaism] we accept back. (There was once a question about whether Karaites needed to undergo a token circumcision in order to switch to rabbinic Judaism, but the rabbinate agrees today that it is not necessary.)

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Man, what a mess.

The area those ‘Karaites of Eastern Europe’ were in is, of course, modern day Ukraine (aka ‘Khazaria).

If you go HERE, you’ll find Gordon’s discussion of the role of Karaites in the Holocaust, where he states the following:

Alongside the Karaite Jews there is a second group who use the name “Karaite” or in their own language “Karaylar” (Zajaczkowski, page 11).

These Karaylar-Karaites are an ethnic group originating in Eastern Europe although their exact origins are a topic of much debate. It seems they are in part descendants of Karaite Jews, who left Karaite Judaism in the late 19th or early 20th Century. According to the Karaylar-Karaites themselves, they are descended from Tataric-Turkic tribes and they readily back this up with linguistic and anthropological evidence….

One characteristic of Karaylar-Karaites is that they profess belief in Jesus and Mohammed as prophets.

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Gordon states that these ‘Karaylar-Karaites’ were living in Crimea / Khazaria.

Again, please go and read the whole discussion about who these ‘Karaites’ living in Eastern Europe before WW2 really were, and what they were really doing.

Because while Nechemia Gordon is making a big deal out of the fact that these so-called ‘Karaylar-Karaites’ can’t really be Jewish, because they believed in Yoshki, we already know from all our Sabbatean-Frankist research that there were a great many closet Frankists and Sabbatean even in the mainstream Jewish communities in these areas that believed in Yoshki, and Shabtai Tzvi, and probably a bunch more false prophets that aren’t even on our radar.

And some of those Crimean ‘Karaites’ even fought with the Wehrmecht and Waffen-SS!

Snippet:

From a letter dated 27 September 1944, from Gerhard Klopfer, Staatssekretär in the Party Chancery, to SS Standartenführer Dr. Karl Brandt, we learn that an estimated 500-600 Crimean Karaites were serving in the Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, and Tatar Legion! These Karaites most probably served with the 5,000-20,000 Crimean Tatars who served in the six German-officered Tatar battalions.

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Heretical ‘Jews’ and Nazis on the same side, fighting in Ukraine?

Where have I heard that before?

Lots to unpick here – and for sure, it’s not all going to come clear in this post. So let’s leave the Karaites alone for a bit, and return to the Khazars again.

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You know what, let’s do the new Khazar information as a separate post, just to stop your brains from exploding.

We’ll rejoin this subject in part 3.

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UPDATE:

I took a look at Karaite Hakham Nechemia Gordon’s up-to-date blog HERE.

He does a regular show with a xtian named Keith Johnson, called ‘Hebrew Gospel Pearls’.

Many of those episodes are restricted to subscribers, but this one, below, from March 9th, provides quite a lot of grist for the mill that ‘Jesus’ was actually a Karaite forerunner…

And that he was quoted as saying he didn’t want to do away with the ‘Torah’, per se – i.e. the written Torah – but the oral Torah.

This lead to a split in the early church between ‘James brother of Yoshki’, who wanted new xtians to continue keeping all the Torah’s commandments, and to effectively live as Torah Jews who believed that Yoshki was Moshiach, and Paul, who taught the Torah’s written commandments no longer applied.

Again, recall the verse above, from the Gemara:

Remember that passage from Yevamot 16a (quoted in the last post) about the KARTUYITES / KARAITES being ‘genealogically unfit’ for regular Jews to marry?

Rami bar Yechezkel was referring only to the KARTUYITES, who were ineligible as converts [possibly because they were suspected of being mamzerim…

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All this potentially sheds a lot of light on who is still fighting today against what they call ‘Rabbinic Judaism’ – i.e. Torah-true Judaism that includes obedience to the Oral Torah.

And it also sheds a lot of light on how this faction of what we would call ‘Sadducees’ / heretical Tzadukim morphed into:

  • Early Jewish xtians 1 (who believed Yoshki was Moshiach, and still kept the written Torah but were ‘anti’ the Oral Torah – i.e. Sadducees.)
  • Early Jewish xtians 2 (who still kept the written Torah, were ‘anti’ the Oral Torah, but also believed Yoshki was somehow a human incarnation of God Himself, chas v’shalom).
  • Early non-Jewish xtians 1 (who believed Yoshki was divine, and still kept the written Torah but were ‘anti’ the Rabbinic Oral Torah.)
  • Early non-Jewish xtians 2 (who believed Yoshki was divine, and DIDN’T keep even the writtenTorah.)
  • Sadducees who didn’t believe that Yoshki was divine, or Moshiach (at least, after he died) – but agreed with his anti-Rabbinic Oral Torah stance – and this last group seem to have morphed into the Karaites.

And we still didn’t add into the mix the outright devil-worshipping gnostic-xtian and gnostic-xtian-formerly-Jewish sects yet, there were also on the scene.

But we will, with God’s help.

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You don’t have to listen yourself to Gordon’s podcast, but if you want to here is the episode:

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UPDATE 2:

A reader from the Netherlands sent me this:

 I use a lot of the Talmud of Rabbi Steinsaltz Koren Talmud. Here the following comment is placed by him:

Karduyim – קרַדְוּיּיִם : This apparently refers to the inhabitants of areas of northern Iraq, near the source of the Tigris River, the region known primarily as Kurdistan today. It is probable that the Kartuyim are from the same region, albeit from a different area.

Kartuyim are unfit –פסְּיִליֵ קרַתְּויּיֵ : Some commentaries maintain that this quote was habitually cited as an example of those who are rendered unfit on account of their lineage. Others say that Kartuyim is a kind of unclean fowl, and this name was applied to those who came from places that can be described in terms of this kind (Rivan).

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Again, I’m just putting more of these ‘breadcrumbs’ together, at this stage, and exploring some interesting connections and possibilities.

There are still a lot of gaps that need filling, before anyone can say with any degree of certainty, what is really going on here. But one thing is clear: the history you and I got taught is full of lies and deliberate disinformation.

That’s one thing I’m totally sure about.

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TBC

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4 replies
  1. Hava
    Hava says:

    Here’s a few things that the Kara’im, and others who reject Judaism as the Rabbis explain it, don’t know (or don’t care to acknowledge)…

    1. Most of the world’s people alive today have “Abrahamic DNA.” Not only did Avraham father Yishmael through a Hamite woman (the Mitzri princess Hagar), but also, his grandson Esav (the twin brother of Yaacov) married Canaanite women and made sure all his descendants married into all the nations. People who say that we Jews don’t have Abrahamic DNA don’t know that they themselves probably have it too. (Yes, even Amalekim. They’re bnei Esav, so they get it from him.) All these women were idolaters.

    What they and their children don’t have is what we could call “Jacobite DNA.”

    2. What people say about the father being originally the determiner of ‘who is a Jew’ is not entirely true. Avraham went to his extended family to obtain a wife, and insisted that his servant Eliezer find a wife for his son Yitzhak from the same extended family one generation later. As for Yaacov, he went to Padan Aram, back to the next generation of the same extended family, at the behest of his mother, Rivka (the wicked Laban’s sister).

    All these men had to be very careful about the women they chose to marry (or had chosen for them). So, even here it is hinted at that being a Jew/Hebrew/Israelite is determined by the mother. And this is all in the Written Torah!

    You know what they say about people who can’t take a hint…

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  2. JR
    JR says:

    “This appears to confirm some sort of link between the original, heretical Sadducees and Boethusians, and their ‘spiritual descendants’, the Karaites.”

    No link beyond their own imagination. The ancient heretical sects are no more. Anan was upset that he was passed over for some prestigious leadership position, so he made up his own sect. If he or his followers claimed legitimacy by faking some tradition to the ancient heretics, that’s his/their word against, well, everyone.

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