All seeing eye dollar

The last few weeks, some clarity has been bubbling up about why so many of these pedophile scandals are centred dafka within xtian institutions.

That doesn’t mean I’m ignoring what’s going on in the Jewish world.

The pedophile scandals in the orthodox Jewish world are also centred around ‘Sabbatean’ institutions and leaders, where the hidden ideology of these externally “very frum” communities is Sabbatean.

But, continuing with the idea that THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, the more I started to figure out what’s been going on closer to home, the more I started to realise something profoundly important, and disturbing.

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In a nutshell, this is the conclusion I’ve reached:

Christianity was based on black magic and ‘lucifer-worship’, right from the start.

Now, anyone who reads the Gemara shouldn’t be shocked by this conclusion.

And we covered a lot of this ground already, in the post on Whitewashing Yoshki.

But in the post, I want to take a much closer look at what is actually happening in our world here and now, and how so much of what has gone wrong is because xtianity poses as ‘good’ and ‘kindness’ and ‘love’ externally – while it’s true inner core is totally rotten and demonic.

And always has been.

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First, why does this matter?

There’s a few answers to that question.

It matters so much because:

1. There are so many Sabbatean-Frankist ‘Erev Rav’ in the Jewish community who are actively promoting and pushing ‘interfaith’.

They are doing this, at least externally, on the basis that there is some shared ‘Judeo-xtian’ tradition that means that xtianity and Judaism are basically very similar, just we disagree about who ‘the Moshiach’ is.

Let’s get this super-clear, that if you don’t think that it’s a good idea to be having ‘interfaith dialogues’ with people who literally worship the dark side, and who believe in gods that are literally the very opposite of Hashem, then you should stop supporting all participation of (externally…) orthodox Jews and rabbis in these types of ‘interfaith’ activities.

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It also matters so much because:

2. The State of Israel was set up by Sabbatean-Frankist ‘Jewish’ proxies, but really is run and controlled by ‘Christian Zionists’, behind the scenes.

It’s not a ‘Jewish State for Jews’.

It’s a Christian-Zionist State for Jews, where the aim is to degrade, convert and otherwise spiritually destroy the Jewish people in every possible way, while covertly advancing the Christian-Zionist agenda in the region.

And it’s been fabulously successful, Hashem should have mercy on us.

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And it also matters so much because:

3. These demonically-inspired xtians are still trying – and succeeding – in converting Jews over to thinking that Jesus was ‘good’.

When he was the very opposite of good.

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Now, how did I come to these conclusions?

For once, I’m going to let one of my readers piece the puzzle together, as they set it out so succinctly in an email, when I was discussing this subject with them. (Thanks, S!).

Here’s where we got to (and some of it is a little graphic, but I’m including those parts, because we really have to understand that xtianity is based on black magic, and black magic is based on unholy sex and bloodshed.)

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Yes, it was demonic since its inception, but obviously has the “seed” within it to lead the Xians to Torah, true Torah, if they are so inclined.

Just like Islam also has that “seed” for those who are so inclined.
Without those two going out into the world both Ishmael and Esau would have not even known that Torah existed at all…

So, Xianity actually started out as Gnosticism.

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The “Paul” version came much later. And gnosticism is chock full o’ tuma, like what our Talmud tells us about Yoshky engraving magical incantations on his arm, etc. Also Manichaeism was chock full o’ tuma.
There are excellent books I could direct you to read, but I think there’s also a lot you can find online.( works by Elaine Pagels are interesting)
Some of the earliest “Xian” rituals involved things like drinking menstrual blood and semen, sexual rituals with intercourse with 99 women without ejaculation to attain Christhood, etc.
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One of the earliest Gnostic Gospels was “The Gospel of Thomas”, an interesting read if you can stomach it.

It turns out, that it was long hypothesized that there was a source text from which all the modern, cleaned up versions of the gospels in the NT derived.
Scholars called this once hypothetical text “Q” (short for the German word, Quelle, or source). One of the first things that happened when Constantine was brought to Xianity and Paulism had sudden political power was that the world’s first crusade occurred, and millions of followers of other versions of early Xianity, together with their texts, were wiped out.
Some monk in the desert of Egypt had the foresight to put a bunch of them in a big earthenware jar and bury them. Those were found in 1945 and go by the name today, “The Nag Hammadi Texts”.
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Among them was “The Gospel of Thomas”, now seen to be the Q text that was the basis for the much later (mostly produced many tens of years after the death of Yoshky and/or the supposed authors) evangelical gospels found in today’s NT.
So, what’s interesting about the GOT (Gospel of Thomas) is that you get a sense that this started from a Jewish tradition.
Its form is reminiscent of Pirkei Avot….a number of stanzas and short stories that are all sayings. 2/3 of them you can see how they were amended/changed and then taken up in the Paulian texts. The interesting part is the 1/3 that are nowhere in the modern NT, and also how the 2/3 have been changed.

A lot of the same type of philosophy that informs New Age or Freemasonry has been edited out.

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The most interesting sayings: numbers 13, 22, 37, 39, 85, 114

[Ed. note, I’ll pull out some stuff below this, so you don’t have to read through it all.]

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In another Gnostic (the Secret Gospel of Mark) text you can read about the famous “raising from the dead” story about Lazarus, but in this version after Yoshky goes in to the burial cave he initiates Lazarus into the secrets of the “Kingdom of God”, naked.

(A historical controversy indicates that it may have originally said: “man with man”), and afterward Lazarus loves him and kisses him on the mouth openly “like a woman”. Etc etc.
Lazarus was supposed to later be called Simon Magus and was the father of the Gnostic traditions.
(Ed. note: we’ll explain more about ‘Simon Magus’ below.)
Here for the full, desperate attempt of historians to clean this one up:
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Other items of interest here:

And from pagan/early Xian Gnosticism it is just a hop, skip and a jump over to Freemasonry and all the darkness that was preserved within Xianity as it preached “love” and forgiveness.

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Truly, all this stuff is totally sickening for a holy Jewish neshama.

But if we don’t ‘understand the enemy’, we are not going to be able to defeat it.

So, let’s start by taking a look at a few of the more interesting ‘teachings’ of Jesus the Black Magic Sorcerer, in the Gospel of Thomas.

(These aren’t necessarily the same as the ones listed in the email, above, as others also caught my eye.)
(12) The disciples said to Jesus, “We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?”
Jesus said to them, “Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being.”
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I’m flagging this one because ‘James the Righteous’ leads the community of ‘Jewish-Christians’ that continues inside the Jewish community itself, also persecuted by what become the Catholic Church.

My hypothesis is that these people just kept ‘morphing’ down the centuries, moving in and out of xtianity and Judaism with different names, but always with the same ultimate goal: to totally subvert Torah-true Jews and Judaism.

(Remember, THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.)

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(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, “These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom.”

They said to him, “Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?”

Jesus said to them, “When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom.”

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This one is interesting for a few different reasons.

First of all, we have the ‘spiritual basis’ for all this transgender evil going on – found in the most authentic xtian gospel, that predates the New Testament versions by a good few decades, if not a couple of centuries.

It’s possibly also talking about transhumanism and all the evil hi-tech we’re dealing with today, where people start ‘fashioning eyes in the place of any eye’.

And on a deeper level, there is clearly a total inversion of values and morality being hinted at here, where ‘the above’ is made ‘like the below’.

All this stuff is based on very deep, ‘reverse kabbalah’, and it sounds so familiar to anyone who’s had the misfortune to read even a bit about what was going on with the Sabbatean theology, including the writings of Jonathan Eybshutz, and later, with the Frankist theology.

THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

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(30) Jesus said, “Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him.”

I picked this one out because it clearly shows that Yoshki thought of himself as ‘replacing God’, God forbid a billion times.

This was never a discussion about Yoshki being some sort of ‘Moshiach ben Yosef’, who could and should be rehabilitated into the Jewish community.

That is a deliberate lie being told by missionaries within the Jewish community, to try to break down the Jewish defense against Yoshki as the epitome of idol-worshipping, black-magic practicing evil.

Which he so definitely was.

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(37) His disciples said, “When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?”

Jesus said, “When you disrobe without being ashamed and take up your garments and place them under your feet like little children and tread on them, then will you see the son of the living one, and you will not be afraid”

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This is hinting to that ‘pre-sin’ existence in the Garden of Eden, that people like Eybshutz also taughT in his disgusting work Va-avo haYom that ‘after Moshiach has come’, there are no limitations on committing incest etc, and other disgusting things, which led directly to all the awful pedophilia and concealed homosexuality going on in certain sections of the ‘externally orthodox’ Jewish community.

See THIS, for more discussion about what Eybshutz was really teaching in that book, and then see how that meshes with what we are learning here about the true origins of xtianity.

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Snippet:

“Know this: the true Messiah couples with the Ancient One. He stands in for the Shechinah [that is, the Female], and with him there to receive it, the ejaculate [of the Ancient One] is not uncontained”–as it once was, at the Shattering of the Vessels. Now it is safe. Now we can receive it. So the Ancient One, embodiment of Grace and Mercy, becomes the God of us all. “Do not loathe an Edomite, for he is your brother.”

The author quotes these words from Deuteronomy 23:8; he means, in his code language, that any Gentile is brother or sister to any Jew.

This is part of his world religion of the future, a kind of neo-Christianity redeemed and made viable by the Messiah Sabbatai Zevi: universal brotherhood.

The author takes up the Kabbalah’s sexualization of divinity. But whereas the traditional Kabbalah thought only in terms of heterosexuality, Va-avo ha-Yom finds a place for gay sex as well. This is among divinities, of course. Yet he envisions a time, perhaps already here, when the Mindless Light no longer poses a threat to the stability of Creation, and “the lower realms” can safely share in the divine freedoms.

THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

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(39) Jesus said, “The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them.

They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves.”

Remember, that ‘gnosis’ is knowledge.

It’s forbidden knowledge, the knowledge of black magic, and ‘black kabbalah’, that can be used to destroy the world, and not to build it up.

Also remember, that our Gemara teaches us that Yoshki was performing his ‘miracles’ with black magic, smuggled out from Egypt – and he was put to death by the Sanhedrin for being a sorcerer who misled thousands of Jews into following after him, and away from God and the Torah.

That knowledge of black magic is ‘gnosis’.

And ‘Gnostic xtianity’, the original form of xtianity, takes its name from this.

(It’s maybe a discussion for another time, but the drops of a man’s seed come from his mind, his intellect, his ‘gnosis’. This explains why so much of black magic also relies on unholy sexual rituals.)

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(53) His disciples said to him, “Is circumcision beneficial or not?”

He said to them, “If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable.”

I picked this one out, so you can understand the context of the coming ‘war’ against circumcision in the Christian-Zionist State of Israel.

That war was postponed, because Baruch Hashem, the government is in such disarray.

But these people have a plan, an agenda, to attack circumcision, and we should all be aware that it’s not coming out of nowhere, but is part of that deeper ‘Christian-Zionist’ process of subverting and destroying the Jewish people in Israel.

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OK, enough of all this sickening ‘Gospel of Thomas’.

I think you are hopefully starting to understand that the real Yoshki was anything but ‘good’.

Now, let’s take a closer look at ‘Simon Magus’.

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According to the standard (distorted…) story put out by the Catholic Church when they were busy creating a new set of ‘myths’ about Yoshki to muddy the waters even more, Simon Magus is described as a magician who had some sort of ‘spiritual duel’ with the apostle Peter.

Snippet from Wikipedia:

Simon Magus, also known as Simon the Sorcerer or Simon the Magician, was a religious figure whose confrontation with Peter is recorded in Acts8:9–24….

In apocryphal works including the Acts of PeterPseudo-Clementines, and the Epistle of the Apostles, Simon also appears as a formidable sorcerer with the ability to levitate and fly at will…. The Apostolic Constitutions also accuses him of “lawlessness” (antinomianism).

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This guy is a magician on a par with the evil Bilaam, who could also fly in the air.

And who also counselled Moab how to destroy the Jewish people with sex-based idol-worship.

And according to the secret (and more authentic…) Gospel of Mark, this ‘Simon Magus’ is the same guy as ‘Lazarus’, who Yoshki apparently raised from the dead using black magic, before having homosexual relations with him, as part of passing on his ‘gnosis’….

Do you see, how all this meshes together perfectly with all the other stuff we’ve been learning here on the blog?

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So now, what do we actually DO with all this information and clarity?

The most important thing of all is to flee from xtianity, and from ‘interfaith’, and from supporting or tolerating anyone who supports and tolerates xtianity, or ‘Jews for Jesus’ in our communities, like a bow shot.

This has serious implications for so much of what is currently going on in the State of Israel, and its support from, and links to the ‘Christian Zionists.’

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And we need to also understand, that xtianity presents the ‘reverse view’ to the Torah, and to God Himself.

So we can’t take their opinions about what is going on, and how ‘the Jews are to blame’ wholesale, without doing an awful lot of birur.

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Xtianity is not just some misguided peace-and-love religion.

It operates like all these organisations, including Freemasonry, the Order of the Golden Dawn, and the CIA, on a ‘need to know’ basis.

The good-hearted people in the outside are taught all the candy-coated ‘peace and love’, let’s give a lot of charidee, we only want the best for the world cack.

They are the ‘cover’ for what is really going on inside, at the much higher, secret levels of initiation.

I.e. black magic, lucifer-worship, sex magick and blood sacrifices.

And now, we start to understand why time and time and time again, xtian clergy, xtian ‘houses of worship’ turn up as the focii for pedophile rings, abominations of all kinds, and satanic rituals.

That was Yoshki’s true path, right from the beginning.

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I know there are some sincerely God-fearing xtians out there.

Like everyone else, they have a massive test of birur ahead of them.

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Let’s end with this, the illuminati pyramid and all-seeing eye, on the American dollar:

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Hey, wait a minute….

That same symbol is literally all over the xtian churches in the Old City, including the Church of the Holy Sepulchre itself:

all seeing eye church of the holy sepulchre

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How’s that, for a CO-IN-CID-ENCE?

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17 replies
  1. Michal
    Michal says:

    To Rivka,

    This is a change in topic, but it is very important for readers to know the truth about Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh, shlita. This reply is in response to an article you posted about him. I contacted the Rabbi’s secretary, and I received the following response:

    Brachah Veshalom,

    In many ways, we are fortunate to live at a time in history when technology
    is so readily available and can be used to spread the light and holiness of Torah
    around the globe so easily.

    Unfortunately, like any tool mankind has developed, video technology and the internet can be used to do the opposite, just as easily.

    Ariel Alloro is a disturbed Jew who many decades ago became obsessed with
    Jesus and Christianity. He is also like many people, seeking his own egotistic
    self-centered aggrandizement by imagining that he is some kind of savior
    who will save the world and bring about a new age. It is not difficult
    to see why he is attracted to the figure of a false idolatrous messiah such as Jesus, who in the Rambam’s words, “caused the ruin of Israel by the sword and the dispersal of its remnant and its humiliation and reversed the Torah, and caused most of the world to err and worship a god other than HaShem” (Hilchot Melachim 11:4).

    Decades ago, Alloro also met Rav Ginsburgh and began hatching his
    abominable ideas and plans. Rav Ginsburgh warned him many times about the false road he was following.
    Unfortunately for the past 15 or so years, Alloro has been trying to convince other Jews to follow him and accept his false, anti-Torah, and abominable beliefs.
    To add insult to injury, realizing that he must provide some false approbation from a respected individual, he has been lying to the world and saying that Rav Ginsburgh supports him.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. To quote from a letter Rav Ginsburgh
    wrote to Alloro in 1991 (dated 24th of the Omer, 5751):

    …you are hereby forbidden to cite my name, explicitly or by allusion, and to quote any of my teachings!!!
    As I told you long ago, all that you come up with and write down is nothing more than… an outright distortion, the expression of a confused mind.

    I will conclude my words of open rebuke… with the powerful hope that you will mend your ways.

    Because Rav Ginsburgh is a truly holy and caring servant of Hashem, he has
    never allowed us to pursue legal action to stop Alloro’s defamation of Rav Ginsburgh and his good name. But this is exactly what needs to be done. Alloro is not able to understand words, he may be able to stop defaming the Rav if it would hurt his pocket.

    This situation has become increasingly pronounced over the past 2 years, and
    it is with increasing frequency that we have to send an email like this.

    We have two recommendations:
    1) Please stop listening or viewing anything that Alloro is involved with. You are
    opening yourself to at the very least Avodah Zarah (idolatry) and slander.
    2) Please be kind enough to warn others of this deceit and explain that Alloro uses Rav Ginsburgh’s name against the Rav’s directions that he cease and desist from doing so.

    Wishing you blessings in your pursuit of Torah and life, and strengthening
    your steadfastness against lies and deceit,

    Harav Ginsburgh’s Secretariat

    Please stop and desist any loshon hora about the Rabbi. Also, please daven for him as he needs a refuah shleima. His name is Yitzchak Feivish ben Brayna Malka. He should live til 120.

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  2. Rivka Levy
    Rivka Levy says:

    Thanks for this.

    I have to say, I’m still puzzled.

    If Rav Ginsburgh wrote Alloro this letter more than 30 years ago, back in 1991, then why is he still welcoming him into his home recently, and also using him as the keyboard player for his events?

    It’s one thing to not pursue legal action against someone using your name, it’s another thing to invite that person into your home and also use them as a musician at your events.

    Can you please clarify these points too, Michal?

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    • Michal
      Michal says:

      The following is the secretary’s response:

      Rav Ginsburgh is a loving and caring Yid who does all he can to bring every person closer to Hashem and to Torah. This includes even those people whose actions he does not agree with and who may even hurt his name.
      May we all merit to act with his love of his fellow Jews.
      Blessings.

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      • Rivka Levy
        Rivka Levy says:

        I’m looking into the halachot about all this, is sounds totally off, to be honest.

        If someone professes an ongoing, unremitting in Yoshki as the ‘moshiach’ – that makes them a xtian, not a Jew.

        And if they are trying to get other Jews to believe the way they do, then that makes them a xtian missionary.

        And there are halachot about how we treat people like this, even if they are born Jewish.

        The Gemara refers to Jews who missionise about Yoshki as ‘minim’.

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  3. Simon
    Simon says:

    God bless you for these articles exposing Christianity. I had no idea how horrible Jesus and his congregation were.
    I also am very regretful that I emailed you hoping to learn (not to practice it) some things about black magic.
    I realized that’s pretty immoral.

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  4. Daisy
    Daisy says:

    Rivka,

    I don’t mean to be the devil’s advocate, but how do you know for a fact that Yoshke did have homosexual relations with the young man? It is only one of the explanations in the various sources you provided, isn’t it?

    Also, re: miracles:

    Many Tzaddikim have and continue to perform what we could call miracles, yeshuot, etc, not to mention of course Eliyahu Hanavi and others of his caliber: so how did the Gemara sages know for a fact that the miracles Yoshke performed were not real miracles brought about by Tefillah? The Chachamim were not inside his brain or his mouth, were they? Maybe he was really davening to Hashem to intervene? How would we know for a fact? Granted, he didn’t follow Mitzvot, he didn’t even believe in Brit Milah, as you just wrote. But what if he was sincere, and asked God from the bottom of his heart to help a person in need?

    Again, no devil’s advocate, just asking questions that deserve clear and irrefutable answers.

    And BTW I have been busy in the last couple of days fighting Jew-hating Xtians online. Don’t believe me? Check out Discus. So I am definitely not one of them, and certainly not on their side. Just asking questions that deserve clear and absolute answers. Of course, readers, please add your piece of info too if you have something solid. Thanks.

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    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      The stuff with Yoshke was just repeated again with Shabtai Tzvi, and Eybshutz…. it’s the philosophy, if you can call it that, that I’m following down the centuries.

      And sad to say, I see that same philosophy in many chassidic groups today. Especially the ones with ‘family ties’ to Shabtai Tzvi / Shach and Eybshutz, although so much is still covered up and deliberately distorted, to make the trail v hard to follow back.

      Once we see what is going on today with these groups, including the xtian groups and the freemasons etc, and of course, our own Sabbatean-Frankists, it’s obvious exactly the same thing was going on back then, too.

      There is nothing new under the sun.

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      • Daisy
        Daisy says:

        So I guess you might be right: telling the truth about Yoshke is being re…jected by the PTB! Revealing his true nature also threatens their stuff apparently. Strange! Because all the horrible pe…do and other ev////il seems so different from what all so-called Yoshke followers care about! On the contrary., they are all openly fighting the evil. Strange, isn’t it? One one hand exposing Yoshke shows the source of that kind of behavior, yet Yoshke followers fight the phenomenon with all their might, and you better not accuse their
        “god” of such behavior, of course: in their eyes. it’s all the pe.do Jews and perverted Talmud ( you should see some of the responses I got from them).

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        • Rivka Levy
          Rivka Levy says:

          That’s part of why it’s so important that this information comes out, at this stage.

          Xtianity teaches that there will be an ‘anti christ’ who their Yoshke will come and fight against.

          Once we understand that Yoshke is the OPPOSITE of Hashem, and stands for the OPPOSITE of Hashem, we start to understand that their ‘anti christ’ is the person who will stand up for Hashem….

          I.e., our moshiach.

          It’s going to be a very hard birur, as they have all the smoke and mirrors to make evil look good, and good look evil.

          That’s why I am encouraging everyone from now, to disregard external information and ‘brainwashing’ – even on my site, if you can call it that – and to just really keep asking God to show you the truth of who and what is right and holy today.

          There is no other way… and we didn’t even get up to the great ‘alien invasion’ hoax part of this story yet.

          But we will.

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    • Shoshana
      Shoshana says:

      Hello Daisy,

      We dont know for sure about homosexual sex and Yoshky based on the Secret Gospel of Mark. But we can “tell the tree by its fruit.” There were other links to articles and whole books there that detail what the practices of the earliest form of Xianity were- Gnosticism. These practices were almost exclusively perverse, sexual, and anti-Torah. It is inconceivable that this was rampant (with millions of followers in the world already before Paulian christianity came about!) as the earliest form of Xianity and not true to the source that it was much closer to, as opposed to the later, Paulian form, which conducted the first crusade on these earlier followers and took their basic texts and altered them.

      As for the miracles that yoshky did, there are basic and clear guidelines that will help you to differentiate between those and what Eliyahu HaNavi or others did. These are in the Talmud and and are summarised very well in Rambam’s Mishne Torah, Hilchot Yesodei HaTorah, Chapters 9 and 10.

      I strongly recommend that you find and read there, especially if you are dialoguing with Xians, and you may want to read the whole section of Rambam’s Mishne Torah, Avodat Kochavim, to review if perhaps you should be conversing with them at all, or, if you do, what are the boundaries of those interactions.

      brachot,

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    • Hava
      Hava says:

      “Ye shall know them by their fruit”…they say that themselves.

      Jew-hatred and -murder was the fruit of Yoshke. Even the Muslim murders can be attributed to him if you go back far enough.

      Dhimmitude and all its laws come from…Xianity. We can’t begin to imagine the suffering of Mizrahi Jews under Muslim rule. It’s taking them a long time to be able to talk about it.

      Also, lots of Xian preachers are caught with their hands in the cookie jar (more specifically, affairs with other women). They’re supposed to be forgiven, and not punished, according to whom?

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      • Rivka Levy
        Rivka Levy says:

        The xtians have been running the world for the last 2,000 years…. it’s an unbelievable mess, full of hatred, wars, murder and immorality, all in the name of ‘religion’….

        Not to mention Jew-hatred, anti-Semitism and pogroms.

        Of course, the Muslims have also done a lot of terrible things. But my take is that the Jews still had it way better under Islam, mostly, than under xtianity. And that especially for the last 150 years, the Muslim world has essentially been under the thumb of the formerly xtian West, who have just used them as proxies to carry on murdering Jews and keeping us in a ‘state of emergency’ here in Israel (amongst other things…)

        That’s not excusing Islam.

        It’s just seeing who is really at the top of the pyramid.

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        • Hava
          Hava says:

          To further separate out the Muslims from the Xians, it seems to me the Muslims have a better handle on how to subjugate people psychologically. Not just Jews, but everyone. Did you see how fast, after 9/11, people started kowtowing to the Arab/Muslim world? All it seemed to take was a few words, after people were traumatized by the destruction of the Twin Towers and the pictures of people falling to their death, published worldwide.

          I suppose Xians are also capable of these things, but they don’t show it so much, unless you happen to be in the right place…

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          • Rivka Levy
            Rivka Levy says:

            I used to think more like this, but increasingly, I’m seeing the Muslims as mostly puppets, played by the same people playing us all.

            And while for sure a lot of xtians are also ‘being played’, there is a reason that the devil-worshipping Jacob Frank directed his followers to the Catholic church to ‘hide out’ until the big plan could come into effect for the world, because the Catholic church is the nearest thing to devil worship that’s ‘tolerated’, openly.

            Look at who is really running the world – it’s all Westerners with ‘xtian’ leanings or backgrounds or ancestors.

            The Muslims are also being ruled by puppets that were put in place by the Western colonial powers.

            I’m not whitewashing the Muslims. I’m just saying that idealogically, if you get the Christian-Zionist ‘State of Israel’ out of the equation, authentic Judaism has way more in common with Islam than it does with xtianity.

            There’s a reason, Rambam told Jews it was better to convert to Islam, than xtianity, even though clearly both options are bad.

    • Shimshon
      Shimshon says:

      Daisy, the Gemara is not known for its wordiness. We know he was convicted of sorcery (among other things), and was executed by stoning. We know they knew and further didn’t get it wrong, because he was convicted. They tell us why he was convicted. In other places, it gives examples of what he did that led to his conviction. Why do you keep wanting to question Chaza”l’s intent by insinuation?

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