It’s time to dive back into the murky depths of real Jewish history.
Before we begin, let me explain how I got to the information I’m going to share with you in this post.
After I put up the posts about the Megelah Amukot’s suspected ‘xtian-Jewish’ tendencies, and the post about the SHACH being an increasingly likely candidate for the alter ego of the false messiah Shabtai Tzvi, I decided I had to look a bit further back along the family trees, to figure out what was really going on.
I bought myself some more massive sheets of cartridge paper…. some more pens….and I got to work trying to figure out who are these people’s ancestors?
Very quickly, I understood that the job was going to be easier than I’d first imagined, because THEY ALL JUST MARRIED THEMSELVES.
Over and over again, down at least the last 1,000 years and probably well before that, too.
So, as I drew up the family trees, I kept coming back to the same names, the same people as the ‘progenitors’ of so many of our famous rabbis and leaders. We’ll talk about specifics a little later on.
Then, I started to notice a few more things, like nearly all these ‘progenitors’ seemed to have strange links to ‘Jewish Christians’ – they either converted to xtianity themselves, or married xtians, or had parents who notably converted out. And then sometimes converted back in to Judaism. And then just as often converted ‘out’ again….
And many of these ‘Jewish Christians’ also overlapped with the old Jewish banking families and court Jews.
We’ll get to some names and details shortly, but I first want you to grasp the simple idea that ‘Jewish Christians’ and Court Jews, and rich Jewish bankers, and NEARLY ALL OUR MOST FAMOUS RABBIS – they all issue from exactly the same families.
At the same time, I also noticed another weird, disturbing trend in these ‘progenitor’ families.
According to halacha, it’s permitted for a niece to marry her uncle, and that happened a ton in these families.
But, even before ‘Shabtai Tzvi / SHACH’ showed up and started actively promoting inverse morality amongst his followers, I came across examples of:
Aunts marrying their nephews in these families down the generations – which is an halachically forbidden relationship.
Snippet from HERE:
The prohibition for a man to marry his aunt (and hence a woman to marry her nephew) is De’oraita (Vayikra 18;12-14 has all variations of aunt) while there is no verse in the Torah prohibiting a niece.
Why were they doing that?
I don’t have an answer. Yet. It could be, this was a ‘Karaite / Sadducee’ habit of thumbing their nose at the Torah’s rules. Or, it could be something else.
But one thing I can tell you for sure: It was happening a lot in these families.
So now, let’s dive in with some details.
Let’s begin with the illustrious ‘Treves’ family, whose descendants include people like the Maharsha, Shmuel Eideles; the REMA Moses Isserles, the TAZ, David Halevi Segal, the Megaleh Amukot, Natan Nata Shapiro – and of course, the SHACH and his wife, Yenta.
The story begins when I started trying to track down the ancestors of the ‘Megaleh Amukot’, Natan Nata Shapiro, to see if there was anything in his background that could suggest why he might have developed ‘Jewish Christian’ tendencies.
At that stage, I went back to the ‘first Shapira of Speyer’, someone called R’ Samuel Zalman Shapira of Speyer.
(The surname Shapiro / Shapira / Spiro / Spira derives from the town of “Speyer”.)
I sat down to do his basic family tree.
Very quickly on one piece of cartridge paper, I had a veritable ‘who’s who’ of the Jewish world.
There was Josel of Rosheim – ‘King of the Jews’, court banker and person suspected of ritual murders.
There was the ‘De Bonne’ family, AKA Stadthagens, AKA known-Sabbatean-Frankists-with-Jewish-Christian connections, GOLDSCHMIDTS.
There was Shabtai Tzvi / SHACH and his wife Yenta, the great, great granddaughter of the REMA.
And of course, the Megaleh Amukot and his problematic, incest-and-pedophilia-promoting descendant Jonathan Eybshutz.
And if that wasn’t enough, I also tripped over the first ‘Bacharach’ who started calling himself ‘Rothschild’.
He was Isaac Rothschild, who married one Keile Oppenheim.
His father, ‘Elchanan Bacharach z. Roten Schild’ was a first cousin of none other than the SHACH / Shabtai Tzvi.
(The Shach’s father, Meir HaCohen Katz Ashkenazi, had a sister Esther, who married ‘Isaac Elchanan Bacharach’. Esther and Isaac’s son is ‘Elchanan Bacharach z. Roten Schild, progenitor of the the known Sabbatean-Frankist Rothschilds.)
A long time ago, I was looking up stuff about ‘Shabtai Tzvi’ and the Rothschilds on Clifford Shack’s site HERE.
He had a picture gallery where he was saying that so many of the early Rothschilds seemed to bear a striking resemblance to false messiah Shabtai Tzvi.
Here’s a couple of screenshots:
Once you understand that Shabtai Tzvi = SHACH, and that the SHACH was the first cousin of Elchanan Bacharach Roten Schild, a lot more of those pieces start to fall into place.
So anyway, that first family tree really showed me that nearly all these people are mamash close family.
But I was still fishing for some more explicit ‘Jewish-Christian’, or ‘Jewish-Templars’, or ‘Jewish-Cathars’ link ups.
So I decided to go back even further.
R’ Samuel Zalman Shapira of Speyer was married to someone called Julia Minna Vergentlin TREVES.
So, I started doing the TREVES family tree – and that’s when I realised just how incestuous all this really is.
So many people are related to one couple in particular, called ‘ELIEZER and JUTTA TREVES’.
Here’s a photo of that particular bit of the family tree:
I know you can’t see much, but I want you to understand that the ‘findings’ I type up her are based on the information these trees help me put together.
First, let’s cover off some of the ‘aunts marrying nephews’ stuff – the obviously forbidden relationships, according to the Torah.
In this tree alone, we see that:
Aharon Luria (‘the first Luria’) marries his aunt, Miriam Spira.
His grand-daughter is Dreizel Miriam Zeisel Luria – the REMA‘s maternal grandfather – who marries one Eliezer Lipman SHRENTZELS.
(We’ll get to the Jewish-Christian Shrentzels in a minute.)
Aharon Luria’s great-grandson is none other than R’ Shlomo Luria, the MAHARSHAL.
When there were ‘rumours’ that so many of the leading rabbis of the middle ages were actually products of illegitimate relationships – including the Maharal of Prague and his brother! – the MAHARSHAL put out a statement saying that people should stop spreading these ‘nadler’ calmunies.
Screenshot from HERE:
As usual, we are seeing with hindsight that there was way more to the illegitimacy / nadler ‘rumours’ than official history is letting on.
Further back in the tree, we find this:
R’ Moshe Gershon Altshuler (Ebereles) married his aunt, Chana TREVES.
R’ Moshe Gershon Altshuler (Ebereles)’s great-grandson is that same Eliezer Lipmann SHRENTZEL we saw above, the grandfather of the REMA.
Now, the REMA has ‘illegitimacy’ streaming down two sides of his family tree.
And the same ‘aunt-nephew’ pattern also continued going forward, in the REMA’s extended family.
You remember from HERE, we figured out that that REMA’s second wife Golda actually came from the ‘Karaite’ family of R’ Shalom Shachna (HaKohen) Kahana (Kohen Tzedek) of Lublin.
Golda’s brother, R’ Israel Shachna (aka R’ Israel Charif from Lublin) had a daughter, Rivka, who married one ‘Naftali Tzvi Hirsch Shor, ABD Brisk and Lublin’.
His daughter, Reisel Schor, marries her nephew, Israel Meisels.
Israel Meisels is the son of Reisel’s brother, Avraham Chaim Shor.
Israel Meisels’ brother is Simcha Bunim Meisels, the ABD of Krakow, who marries…. Dreizel, the daughter of the REMA.
It’s a small world.
Ok, now let’s a take closer look at some of the ‘Christian-Jewish’ stuff going on in the REMA’s family tree.
So very many of the ‘leading lights’ in the Ashkenazi Rabbinic world apparently descend from the SHRENTZEL family, that we’ve mentioned above.
Where did this ‘SHRENTZEL’ family come from?
That was the question.
Let me introduce you to:
Emerich Szerencsés (also known as Fortunatus; died August 1526) was deputy treasurer of the Kingdom of Hungary and a Jewish convert to Christianity.
Here’s a bit more from the Hungarian Cyclowiki page HERE:
Here’s another brief snippet, from Wikipedia (which is written like hagiography):
He was baptised by Ladislaus Szalkai, Archbishop of Grau, and took the baptismal name Emerich after his sponsor Emerich Perényi, Palatine of Hungary. His wife and his sons Abraham and Ephraim remained practising Jews.
After his conversion he was appointed deputy treasurer, using his position to send coded letters warning Hungarian Jews on imminent persecution, to secure the revocation of the expulsion of the Jews from Prague and to save a Jewish man and woman who had been condemned to death by fire.
That’s all the ‘good news’.
In reality, ‘Emerich Szerencses’ (Solomon Gluck SHRENTZEL’) was caught embezzling huge amounts of money, and his actions subsequently led to the Jewish Ghetto in Ofen being sacked by furious Hungarians.
This comes from the Jewish Encyclopaedia, HERE:
The nobility of the realm, headed by Stephan Verböczi, accused Szerencsés of being the cause of the financial embarrassment of the country; and some of the members of the Diet of 1525 even demanded that he be burned at the stake.
Szerencsés, indeed, had been grossly negligent in his official duties, and, in common with many of the most respected noblemen of the time, had made free use of the state’s money.
He was therefore imprisoned by King Louis II., whose favorite he had been, but was released shortly afterward. On the adjournment of the Diet servants of the nobles, reenforced by the rabble, attacked and plundered his home, and he escaped the rage of the populace only by flight.
At the same time the mob stormed the ghetto, and seized all the valuables belonging to the Jews.
Back on Cyclowiki, we’re told that he deliberately debased the coins in Hungary by 50%, and was actually burnt at the stake for his crimes.
(Is this a good time to remind us all that the Karaite-Khazars were also in charge of the royal mints, wherever they seemed to go?)
What happened to the Jewish-Christian ‘SHRENTZEL’ family?
His descendants adopted the name of Sachs.
Of course, we don’t know if that also included his two non-Jewish sons from his Christian girlfriend. (You’ll recall that most Karaites hold that Jewish descent is decided patrilineally, via the man…)
But before that happened, they also intermarried with a whole bunch of other dodgy Court Jews whose family members had ‘become Christian’ so they could carry on whispering in the ear of royalty, including the descendants of:
R’ Akiva HaKohen Katz of Uban – (AKA John Ernuszt) – ancestor of Shabtai Tzvi / SHACH, amongst many other ‘big rabbis’.
R’ Moshe Fiszel (also accused of extortion in collecting tax from the Jewish community in 1499). Remember, one of his sons converted out and became ‘Stefan Fiszel Powidzk H. Korab‘, while another son Ephraim / Franczek Fiszel, had a son Moshe, who was burnt at the stake over accusations of ritual murder.
Ephraim / Franczek Fiszel was apparently married to Valentina LURIA – daughter of the MAHARSHAL, Shlomo Luria, who wrote that whole thing telling everyone to stop ‘spreading lies’ about the rabbis’ impeccable yichus.
It’s a small world.
A few more ‘forbidden relationships’, in this post, and then we’ll wrap it up for now.
I don’t want your brains to explode!
Back on that ‘ELIEZER and JUTTA TREVES’ family tree, we see this:
- Daughter CHAVA TREVES marries YITZHAK SCHRENTZEL – and their descendants include the REMA, a bunch of ‘Ephraim Fischels’, a bunch of SHORs, and Yenta, wife of Shabtai Tzvi / SHACH. And CHAIM of VOLOZHIN.
- Daughter CHANA YONA marries R’ ZVI HELMAN – and their grandson is the MAHARSHA, R Shmuel Eliezer HaLevi Eideles. In turn, the MAHARSHA‘s grandson is the MEGALEH AMUKOT, Natan Nata Shapiro, and his great-grandson is JONATHAN EYBSHUTZ.
- Un-named daughter marries R’ SHLOMO ZALMAN HALEVI (STEINBERGER), and their grandson is the TAZ, David Halevi Segal. The TAZ’s grandchildren include R’ ELIEZER LIPPMAN HEILPRIN, who marries MARGOLA SHOR – the probable mother of false messiah JACOB FRANK. And R’ Eliezer’s brother, ‘R’ JOEL HEILPRIN BAAL SHEM OF ZAMOSCH‘ – aka, Avraham Shmuel Chaim Falk, the ‘bad Baal Shem’ of London, Jacob Frank’s father-in-law, and founder of the satanic ‘Order of the Golden Dawn.’ (More TAZ descendants include the wife of the Alter Rebbe of Chabad….)
- Son R’ NAFTALI HIRSCH TREVES has two daughters. One marries R’ SHMUEL ISH-ZVI ASHKENAZI BAK, and they have a son, R’ CHAIM ISH ZVI (of Kremenitz) – who again marries his aunt, Naftali Hirsh’s other daughter. Their son is SHMUEL SHMELKE ZAK, whose son Aharon marries the SHACH’s daughter, Tova. Their descendants include CHAIM of VOLOZHIN.
- Meanwhile, another son of R’ SHMUEL ISH-ZVI ASHKENAZI BAK is R’ YAAKOV KOPPEL ASHKENAZI, who marries SAREL MEISELS – the REMA’s grand-daughter, via Simcha Bunim Meisels, mentioned above. (Simcha’s brother Israel Meisels marries his aunt, Reisel Shor….)
What can we learn from this?
Not least, that those families who became ‘notable Sabbateans’, and then later on, devolved even further down into ‘notable Frankists’, appear to descend from a bunch of ‘Jewish-Christians’ with the anti-Torah (possibly Sadducee/Karaite) habit of marrying nephews to aunts.
And their descendants are still controlling nearly all the bits of the the secular and religious Jewish world today.
And personally, I don’t think that’s a CO-IN-CID-ENCE.
I went back to check more of the SHACH / Shabtai Tzvi’s descendants, as I remembered seeing some ‘nephews marrying aunts’ stuff there, too.
THIS is a screenshot for a discussion around Menachem Meinish Chayot / Chajes of Vilna, who apparently also married his own aunt.
His great grandson and namesake married the SHACH’s daughter, ‘Esther HaTzaddika’.
Apparently, so many of our ‘biggest rabbis’ didn’t care a hoot, that they were marrying into families of mamzers.
This is mind-boggling.
And it suggests that the thesis that the Jewish Community got ‘hijacked’ by fake Jews (Sadducee-Karaite-Christian-Ekesaite-Khazars???) long before Shabtai Tzvi / SHACH came along is increasingly looking like a credible idea.